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	<title>Comments on: PUB knew canal was not big enough but didn&#8217;t act?</title>
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		<title>By: Lim Chih-Yang</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/11/pub-knew-canal-was-not-big-enough-but-didnt-act/comment-page-1/#comment-4061</link>
		<dc:creator>Lim Chih-Yang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha I agree....honestly, I did not even know Mr Brown had a post there or for that matter, Mr Brown had posted something about the flood....now thanks to their &quot;thin skin&quot;.... I know about it....

Seriously, these ministers must learn to take criticism and roll with it rather than be on the defensive all the time and appearing so small minded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha I agree&#8230;.honestly, I did not even know Mr Brown had a post there or for that matter, Mr Brown had posted something about the flood&#8230;.now thanks to their &#8220;thin skin&#8221;&#8230;. I know about it&#8230;.</p>
<p>Seriously, these ministers must learn to take criticism and roll with it rather than be on the defensive all the time and appearing so small minded.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Giam</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/11/pub-knew-canal-was-not-big-enough-but-didnt-act/comment-page-1/#comment-4058</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Giam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many man-hours were spent by the civil servants in MEWR and MICA drafting out submission papers and emails and making phone calls to get the Insing post removed. All of it for nought, because the censorship produced even greater publicity for the blog post. I for one have never gone to the Insing website. Now thanks to MEWR/MICA, I don&#039;t even have to! Hahaha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many man-hours were spent by the civil servants in MEWR and MICA drafting out submission papers and emails and making phone calls to get the Insing post removed. All of it for nought, because the censorship produced even greater publicity for the blog post. I for one have never gone to the Insing website. Now thanks to MEWR/MICA, I don&#8217;t even have to! Hahaha&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lim Chih-Yang</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/11/pub-knew-canal-was-not-big-enough-but-didnt-act/comment-page-1/#comment-4054</link>
		<dc:creator>Lim Chih-Yang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://forums.asiaone.com/showthread.php?t=25604&amp;page=2

you will be interested to know that the ministry is getting so paranoid that they had censored Mr Brown&#039;s satirical article on the flooding... I guess its hard to admit one&#039;s mistake, even harder to tolerate people who criticise your mistake.</description>
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<p>you will be interested to know that the ministry is getting so paranoid that they had censored Mr Brown&#8217;s satirical article on the flooding&#8230; I guess its hard to admit one&#8217;s mistake, even harder to tolerate people who criticise your mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: PhotoVigor</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/11/pub-knew-canal-was-not-big-enough-but-didnt-act/comment-page-1/#comment-4022</link>
		<dc:creator>PhotoVigor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Sin-ga-pore and we live in Sin-ga-pore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Sin-ga-pore and we live in Sin-ga-pore.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/11/pub-knew-canal-was-not-big-enough-but-didnt-act/comment-page-1/#comment-4020</link>
		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;First you gotta think about WHO are the residents in that area. I believe. If we get down to thinking at our most cynical, would the party not take action about fixing infrastructure in the area where Tony Tan, SM Goh, and probably many other prominent local businessmen and lawyers have homes, and that features some of the country’s best schools?&quot;

Which is what I say that to this gov that they will not do anything to help lesser mortal until they and their expensive elites get hit themselves. Now, this &#039;freak event&#039; occurs, and suddenly this Yaacob, as Gerald highlights, has the wisdom to enlarge the canal when the echelon&#039;s home get affected by the flood ? 

First, this minister tell you that &quot;If we design for the largest rainfall or highest tide, then we are going to have huge canals in Singapore.”. But now, this very minister tell you that it is possible to fix the canal when his own master and colleagues&#039;s home get hit by flood. So in other words, the elite must get hit before they can measure accurately the magnitude of the flood ? So perhaps it is God&#039;s punishment that the place be flooded so that the expensive clowns start doing something on global climate change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;First you gotta think about WHO are the residents in that area. I believe. If we get down to thinking at our most cynical, would the party not take action about fixing infrastructure in the area where Tony Tan, SM Goh, and probably many other prominent local businessmen and lawyers have homes, and that features some of the country’s best schools?&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is what I say that to this gov that they will not do anything to help lesser mortal until they and their expensive elites get hit themselves. Now, this &#8216;freak event&#8217; occurs, and suddenly this Yaacob, as Gerald highlights, has the wisdom to enlarge the canal when the echelon&#8217;s home get affected by the flood ? </p>
<p>First, this minister tell you that &#8220;If we design for the largest rainfall or highest tide, then we are going to have huge canals in Singapore.”. But now, this very minister tell you that it is possible to fix the canal when his own master and colleagues&#8217;s home get hit by flood. So in other words, the elite must get hit before they can measure accurately the magnitude of the flood ? So perhaps it is God&#8217;s punishment that the place be flooded so that the expensive clowns start doing something on global climate change.</p>
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		<title>By: hnming</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/11/pub-knew-canal-was-not-big-enough-but-didnt-act/comment-page-1/#comment-4019</link>
		<dc:creator>hnming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First you gotta think about WHO are the residents in that area. I believe. If we get down to thinking at our most cynical, would the party not take action about fixing infrastructure in the area where Tony Tan, SM Goh, and probably many other prominent local businessmen and lawyers have homes, and that features some of the country&#039;s best schools?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First you gotta think about WHO are the residents in that area. I believe. If we get down to thinking at our most cynical, would the party not take action about fixing infrastructure in the area where Tony Tan, SM Goh, and probably many other prominent local businessmen and lawyers have homes, and that features some of the country&#8217;s best schools?</p>
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		<title>By: Akikonomu</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/11/pub-knew-canal-was-not-big-enough-but-didnt-act/comment-page-1/#comment-4018</link>
		<dc:creator>Akikonomu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, despite the &quot;minor&quot; floods every 3-5 years back since the last &quot;big one&quot;, the Bukit Timah canal project has been generally successful.

That the PUB has been &quot;watching with concern&quot; but unable to effect any changes is rather strange - searching the internet, any reader can find various studies by local and foreign unis, engineers and engineering companies in the past 5 years on a further development project.

For the &quot;freak event&quot; to morph into &quot;we knew about it&quot; and then to &quot;we&#039;re taking action NOW&quot; - might suggest an attempt to play up the construction project in the minds of the area residents. I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s a pre-election manoeuvre, but I can&#039;t think of any logical explanations at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, despite the &#8220;minor&#8221; floods every 3-5 years back since the last &#8220;big one&#8221;, the Bukit Timah canal project has been generally successful.</p>
<p>That the PUB has been &#8220;watching with concern&#8221; but unable to effect any changes is rather strange &#8211; searching the internet, any reader can find various studies by local and foreign unis, engineers and engineering companies in the past 5 years on a further development project.</p>
<p>For the &#8220;freak event&#8221; to morph into &#8220;we knew about it&#8221; and then to &#8220;we&#8217;re taking action NOW&#8221; &#8211; might suggest an attempt to play up the construction project in the minds of the area residents. I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s a pre-election manoeuvre, but I can&#8217;t think of any logical explanations at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Giam</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/11/pub-knew-canal-was-not-big-enough-but-didnt-act/comment-page-1/#comment-4016</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Giam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hnming - It appears your assessment was the same as PUB&#039;s, that the over-development in the area contributed to the flooding. PUB said they had been &quot;watching it with concern&quot; but weren&#039;t able to address it before the flood struck. I hope it wasn&#039;t just an excuse, though.

Something doesn&#039;t quite gel with the Minister&#039;s statement. First he said it was a &#039;freak event&#039; and that PUB can&#039;t be planning for the biggest downpour otherwise we&#039;ll have &#039;huge canals&#039;. Why then is it that post-flood, they are all swinging into action to widen canals? If he really thought it was a freak event, then he would just sit tight and do nothing right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hnming &#8211; It appears your assessment was the same as PUB&#8217;s, that the over-development in the area contributed to the flooding. PUB said they had been &#8220;watching it with concern&#8221; but weren&#8217;t able to address it before the flood struck. I hope it wasn&#8217;t just an excuse, though.</p>
<p>Something doesn&#8217;t quite gel with the Minister&#8217;s statement. First he said it was a &#8216;freak event&#8217; and that PUB can&#8217;t be planning for the biggest downpour otherwise we&#8217;ll have &#8216;huge canals&#8217;. Why then is it that post-flood, they are all swinging into action to widen canals? If he really thought it was a freak event, then he would just sit tight and do nothing right?</p>
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		<title>By: hnming</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/11/pub-knew-canal-was-not-big-enough-but-didnt-act/comment-page-1/#comment-4014</link>
		<dc:creator>hnming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anderson: The current Bukit Timah canal was finished in the 80s to counter flood problems. It has done so very well until recently. Do you know how short a period of time is 20/30 years when it comes to Civil Engineering? Do you know all the painstaking decisions and deliberations involved in carrying out one civil engineering project? Or the years required to assess the level of appropriate changes needed to existing civil engineering projects for them to work? 

@Jezebella: How do you know about something just a few hours before it happens and then do something about it, especially when it is something as big as a flash flood? You expect some kind of Superman to come and lift Bukit Timah Road up from the ground, is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anderson: The current Bukit Timah canal was finished in the 80s to counter flood problems. It has done so very well until recently. Do you know how short a period of time is 20/30 years when it comes to Civil Engineering? Do you know all the painstaking decisions and deliberations involved in carrying out one civil engineering project? Or the years required to assess the level of appropriate changes needed to existing civil engineering projects for them to work? </p>
<p>@Jezebella: How do you know about something just a few hours before it happens and then do something about it, especially when it is something as big as a flash flood? You expect some kind of Superman to come and lift Bukit Timah Road up from the ground, is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jezebella</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/11/pub-knew-canal-was-not-big-enough-but-didnt-act/comment-page-1/#comment-4013</link>
		<dc:creator>Jezebella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right. They knew but did not do anything. What are we paying them for? To just sit there, shake leg and collect pay? 

And they call themselves talents?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right. They knew but did not do anything. What are we paying them for? To just sit there, shake leg and collect pay? </p>
<p>And they call themselves talents?</p>
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