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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 42</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/10/mah-to-low-stay-within-your-sandbox/comment-page-1/#comment-3235</link>
		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 69er: HDB as a political weapon - TOC: Reform Party visits Jurong West - Gerald Giam’s Blog: Mah to Low: Stay within your sandbox - The Temasek Review: Mah Bow Tan: LUP has to be implemented through government (PAP) channels - [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“I make no apologies that the PAP is the Government and the Government is the PAP.” – Lee Kuan Yew, 1982, Petir&quot;

http://wordpress.filmgrain.com/?p=461

Does that explain why grassroot, org etc by gov is all partisan to PAP ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I make no apologies that the PAP is the Government and the Government is the PAP.” – Lee Kuan Yew, 1982, Petir&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://wordpress.filmgrain.com/?p=461" rel="nofollow">http://wordpress.filmgrain.com/?p=461</a></p>
<p>Does that explain why grassroot, org etc by gov is all partisan to PAP ?</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Darling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Darling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People joined grassroot for a multitude of reasons. In the past, it used to be that they joined them for some free seasons parking in the HDB carparks, some took pride in being a community leader (for whatever that is worth) and of cuz there are the genuine group that from the offset is indeed bent on contributing their effort to serve the community. Most of them actually want to rub shoulder and be nearer to the MP&#039;s who themselves may be nearer to the Godverment. Rubbing shoulder has its advantages, like pulling strings to get certain things done for the family members and some other help (perks) which otherwise a layman citizen will have to queue deep into the night to just bring up their problem.

These people will not demand a pay, let alone desiring for a bonus. Getting close to their God is already bonus enough.

That is the reason why, despite invitation, I have never wanted to get involve in RCs, and all the other C&#039;s. Peter, there are other ways to contribute to society. Sad to say, this grassroot system has been abused and misused by some grassroot leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People joined grassroot for a multitude of reasons. In the past, it used to be that they joined them for some free seasons parking in the HDB carparks, some took pride in being a community leader (for whatever that is worth) and of cuz there are the genuine group that from the offset is indeed bent on contributing their effort to serve the community. Most of them actually want to rub shoulder and be nearer to the MP&#8217;s who themselves may be nearer to the Godverment. Rubbing shoulder has its advantages, like pulling strings to get certain things done for the family members and some other help (perks) which otherwise a layman citizen will have to queue deep into the night to just bring up their problem.</p>
<p>These people will not demand a pay, let alone desiring for a bonus. Getting close to their God is already bonus enough.</p>
<p>That is the reason why, despite invitation, I have never wanted to get involve in RCs, and all the other C&#8217;s. Peter, there are other ways to contribute to society. Sad to say, this grassroot system has been abused and misused by some grassroot leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Pan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Pan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the letter written by the Press Secretary on behalf of  Mr Mah Bow Tan, the Minister for National Development, it has implied that grassroot organisations, such as the RC and CC, are a part of the government. 

If that is so, then as a member of a  grassroot organisation, can I now demand for a salary and yearly bonuses (and backdated up to all the years that I have served in the grassroot organisations) from the HDB or from the Ministry of National Development?

This is a very serious issue.  All members of RCs and CCs should start to demand for pays and bonuses for the number of years they have served FOC. 

WHO is to foot this very huge bill? I think the PAP should take full responsibility and be made to pay and pay for this, yah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the letter written by the Press Secretary on behalf of  Mr Mah Bow Tan, the Minister for National Development, it has implied that grassroot organisations, such as the RC and CC, are a part of the government. </p>
<p>If that is so, then as a member of a  grassroot organisation, can I now demand for a salary and yearly bonuses (and backdated up to all the years that I have served in the grassroot organisations) from the HDB or from the Ministry of National Development?</p>
<p>This is a very serious issue.  All members of RCs and CCs should start to demand for pays and bonuses for the number of years they have served FOC. </p>
<p>WHO is to foot this very huge bill? I think the PAP should take full responsibility and be made to pay and pay for this, yah.</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 14 Oct 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 14 Oct 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Perdition Election - Gerald Giam’s Blog: Mah to Low: Stay within your sandbox - The Temasek Review: Mah Bow Tan: LUP has to be implemented through government (PAP) channels - [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alan Wong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Opposition MPs are not responsible for generating budget surpluses&quot;

If this logic is correct,  this would also mean that the reverse is equally true &quot;Only PAP MPs are responsible for generating budget surplus (or deficits) &quot;.

So is that why the CEO of Temasek Holdings, wife of the Prime Minister,  who is not a MP is absolved from all responsibilities for all the losses at Temasek ?

What kind of logic is that ?  They have pig-brains,  is it ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Opposition MPs are not responsible for generating budget surpluses&#8221;</p>
<p>If this logic is correct,  this would also mean that the reverse is equally true &#8220;Only PAP MPs are responsible for generating budget surplus (or deficits) &#8220;.</p>
<p>So is that why the CEO of Temasek Holdings, wife of the Prime Minister,  who is not a MP is absolved from all responsibilities for all the losses at Temasek ?</p>
<p>What kind of logic is that ?  They have pig-brains,  is it ?</p>
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