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	<description>Alternative proposals for a better Singapore</description>
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		<title>By: iPhone 5</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/08/the-necessary-privileges-of-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-10356</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You made various fine points there. I did a search on the topic and found the majority of folks will have the same opinion with your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You made various fine points there. I did a search on the topic and found the majority of folks will have the same opinion with your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/08/the-necessary-privileges-of-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-3083</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting: in my finance software and in computing my income, I include the CPF as an income
 So there is no  difference in income: there is a difference in disposable income
 Most foreigners I know are a lot happier to get CPF than not to get it: getting CPF means an EXTRA 10% from the employer and not the reverse

 I think Singaporeans do not hate foreigners: they just don&#039;t like the fact that they cannot vote and take it out on the foreigners
 They want to have the freedom of the foreigners and a real cushion from the government</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting: in my finance software and in computing my income, I include the CPF as an income<br />
 So there is no  difference in income: there is a difference in disposable income<br />
 Most foreigners I know are a lot happier to get CPF than not to get it: getting CPF means an EXTRA 10% from the employer and not the reverse</p>
<p> I think Singaporeans do not hate foreigners: they just don&#8217;t like the fact that they cannot vote and take it out on the foreigners<br />
 They want to have the freedom of the foreigners and a real cushion from the government</p>
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		<title>By: Foreign Talent</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/08/the-necessary-privileges-of-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-3052</link>
		<dc:creator>Foreign Talent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 06:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually there is a solution to make flats more affordable to young locals without devaluation the value of existing flats.

Your government can waive the profiteering ($172,398) when selling to young Singaporeans and stop new owners from reselling their flats for ten years.

But I am skeptical if your government will do this to help young Singaporeans. I mean, they will lose the chance to earn so much money. 

Really feel sad for you people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually there is a solution to make flats more affordable to young locals without devaluation the value of existing flats.</p>
<p>Your government can waive the profiteering ($172,398) when selling to young Singaporeans and stop new owners from reselling their flats for ten years.</p>
<p>But I am skeptical if your government will do this to help young Singaporeans. I mean, they will lose the chance to earn so much money. </p>
<p>Really feel sad for you people.</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 36</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/08/the-necessary-privileges-of-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-3048</link>
		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 03:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in a Strange Land - Gerald Giam&#8217;s Blog: The necessary privileges of citizenship - LIANAIN FILMS: Goodbye, Abu Sama - The Temasek Review: A question of fairness: PRs competing with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gerald Giam</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/08/the-necessary-privileges-of-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-3021</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Giam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fox - We asked her after CNA went off air, and we continued on the webcast. She said that she couldn&#039;t see any advantages of becoming a PR at this point, since she was not planning to buy an HDB flat.

Yes I didn&#039;t get across all the points I wanted to. I reviewed the recording, and realised that there were opportunities to do so but I fluffed it by repeating my earlier points. I&#039;ll learn next time.

Good point about NSFs protecting foreigners for &quot;free&quot;. I never saw it that way but I&#039;ll use that point for future arguments. Thanks!

ah gan - Thanks man! 

fairoz - I think the tuition grant was there even during your time. It&#039;s just that it is transparent to both you and the foreign students -- you just pay the difference between the actual tuition fees (which amounts to $30k+ a year) and the MOE tuition grant.

I&#039;m saddened to hear that the success rate for the NUS bursaries was only 30%. I wonder if you could help me find out what the success rate is now. Your point about Singapore students staying here longer is an excellent point, which I will also add to my repository of arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fox &#8211; We asked her after CNA went off air, and we continued on the webcast. She said that she couldn&#8217;t see any advantages of becoming a PR at this point, since she was not planning to buy an HDB flat.</p>
<p>Yes I didn&#8217;t get across all the points I wanted to. I reviewed the recording, and realised that there were opportunities to do so but I fluffed it by repeating my earlier points. I&#8217;ll learn next time.</p>
<p>Good point about NSFs protecting foreigners for &#8220;free&#8221;. I never saw it that way but I&#8217;ll use that point for future arguments. Thanks!</p>
<p>ah gan &#8211; Thanks man! </p>
<p>fairoz &#8211; I think the tuition grant was there even during your time. It&#8217;s just that it is transparent to both you and the foreign students &#8212; you just pay the difference between the actual tuition fees (which amounts to $30k+ a year) and the MOE tuition grant.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m saddened to hear that the success rate for the NUS bursaries was only 30%. I wonder if you could help me find out what the success rate is now. Your point about Singapore students staying here longer is an excellent point, which I will also add to my repository of arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: fairoz</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/08/the-necessary-privileges-of-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-3020</link>
		<dc:creator>fairoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi gerald,

I did not know that a foreign student receives subsidy, let alone that much subsidy from the state. Its poor policy.Back in NUS as an undergrad, it was difficult for Singaporean students from less well off families to receive NUS bursaries because the amount set aside for each year for bursaries was not enough to be distributed to all applicants. The success rate was about 30-40% i think, back in 2006, when I was in my final undergrad year. This policy should really be rethink, not because this is an exercise in unthinking, angry, knee-jerk nationalism, but because Singaporean students are more likely to be staying here in the long term or permanently,than foreign students, hence making greater direct contribution to Singapore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi gerald,</p>
<p>I did not know that a foreign student receives subsidy, let alone that much subsidy from the state. Its poor policy.Back in NUS as an undergrad, it was difficult for Singaporean students from less well off families to receive NUS bursaries because the amount set aside for each year for bursaries was not enough to be distributed to all applicants. The success rate was about 30-40% i think, back in 2006, when I was in my final undergrad year. This policy should really be rethink, not because this is an exercise in unthinking, angry, knee-jerk nationalism, but because Singaporean students are more likely to be staying here in the long term or permanently,than foreign students, hence making greater direct contribution to Singapore.</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 31 Aug 2009</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/08/the-necessary-privileges-of-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-3018</link>
		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 31 Aug 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ah gan</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/08/the-necessary-privileges-of-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-3017</link>
		<dc:creator>ah gan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoy the way you put the points across and of course the research that you have done.

keep it up mate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoy the way you put the points across and of course the research that you have done.</p>
<p>keep it up mate!</p>
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		<title>By: Fox</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/08/the-necessary-privileges-of-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-3015</link>
		<dc:creator>Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s was a great show but I felt that you did not have enough time to say what you could have said.

I&#039;m curious. Did you ask the Malaysian lady why she had not taken up PR? 

Also, I feel that you should have brought up how NS provides tangible benefits for PRs and foreigners. For example, apart from the obvious national security benefit of NSFs serving in the SAF, a significant fraction of SPF and SCDF is made up of NSFs who are effectively subsidizing the PRs and foreigners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s was a great show but I felt that you did not have enough time to say what you could have said.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious. Did you ask the Malaysian lady why she had not taken up PR? </p>
<p>Also, I feel that you should have brought up how NS provides tangible benefits for PRs and foreigners. For example, apart from the obvious national security benefit of NSFs serving in the SAF, a significant fraction of SPF and SCDF is made up of NSFs who are effectively subsidizing the PRs and foreigners.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Giam</title>
		<link>http://geraldgiam.sg/2009/08/the-necessary-privileges-of-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-3014</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Giam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrible. I should have checked. Anyway I deleted it. Thanks for pointing out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrible. I should have checked. Anyway I deleted it. Thanks for pointing out.</p>
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